与其他许多站内用户的情况相似,Zyn是我在顾虑于某些论坛规则后第一个取得联系的管理员。因其从在写作社区上有帮助的反馈到其“蝴蝶小队”审稿团队的建立等贡献对社区带来的巨大的影响,Zyn成为了SCP社群最众所周知,最受人钦佩,最令人赞赏的支柱之一。这种地位在其2013年建立并活跃至今,有超过1000条回帖的“Ask Zyn”讨论串上尤为明显。虽然Zyn工作繁忙,但她还是慷慨的接受了我的采访请求。~ WhiteGuard
Zyn在2017年三月三日被正式提拔为管理员,同时作为论坛批评团队的领导者至今。Zyn于2012年七月二十三日成为本站成员,依据评分排序,其最受欢迎的页面为SCP-348:父亲的礼物(当前为+1154分)。之前也提过,Zyn同时也是“蝴蝶小队”——一组工于写作的审稿者,专门为了辅助作者的构思和草稿阶段——的负责人。她以每日参与许多论坛讨论串而闻名,这也进一步展示了她无与伦比的职业道德和她作为审稿者队长的领导能力。以下的采访会延续之前的格式,包含11个我自己的问题和来自社群的4个问题,以及她的回答。
访谈者问题
与之前的采访所问的问题相似,你是如何了解SCP基金会的?什么促使你加入了站点?什么启发了你让你成为了站点的一名作者而非继续作为读者和审稿者?
我最开始是在看到 r/tipofmytongue 子Reddit上的链接之后偶然发现的SCP维基,那应该是在2012年,我记得。
我读了上面的一些文章和故事,然后决定自己试试SCP格式的写作,看看我能否为基金会宇宙贡献些持久的东西。
在与社区的一些互动(以及我未经他人审阅就发布了首篇文章——虽然它有些陈词滥调、给人印象不深,但它还是得到了一些不错的反馈)之后,我被激励着继续进步。我想能为读者贡献些他们能享受的东西,就像我当初第一次加入时享受着阅读他人的文档一样。
你在你的“Ask Staff”讨论串里提到过你很喜欢你高中时的创意写作课。你觉得你在这堂课程上学到的写作经验对你在站点上的成功有贡献吗?你从那堂课里学到了什么?
上那堂课已经是很久以前的事了,不过确实,我积累的经验绝对帮助了我提升关于在SCP维基上写作的技能。
我记得最后一节课大部分讲的是“如果你灵感或者动力枯竭,试试换个写作的环境”和“如果你塑造角色时重度基于你自己的人格,一定要让自己与角色保持距离,这样对角色的批评就不会那么像人身攻击了”。当然,总要对审阅者保持礼貌。试着练习从其他读者的角度审阅你自己的作品。
在你的作者页上,你说你最喜欢的文档通常是有着感人且暖心的叙述的Safe级异常。作为一名读者,哪些具体的方面能够组成一篇让你感动的文章?回顾你数年审阅的经历,哪篇草稿你会觉得是你最期待成为一篇完全成熟的作品的?
我最近很少有时间能够做些浅阅读,所以以最基础的评判标准,我诚然更喜欢短小精悍,富有“冲击力”的文章。除了这个,我喜欢那些独特的异常,不管是它们是不平常的生物还是我们从未见过的物品,亦或是它们太过古怪且难以预测以至于它们能让读者屏住呼吸。我也喜欢那些能戳到我的笑点,好好的让我笑一场的文章,即使笑点是用很严肃的,很临床腔的语调来表达的。如果文章十分感性或者令人怀念(就是,这篇文章能让我强烈的与叙述中的某人某物共情,或者它能让我回想起我生活中的某些事),那就更好了。
实话说,能让我最兴奋的草稿都是我参与合著的,因为我审阅了某位作者的文章,很喜欢它以至于想要更多的参与到写作过程中。目前其他作者写的文章中,最让我记忆犹新的是SCP-2295(缝心的熊)。
作为一名审稿者,你会觉得审阅不符合你的喜好的点子和草稿很困难吗?你对可能会有潜力但你知道你自己不会喜欢的点子是如何处理的?这些情况下提供建议会很困难吗?
这些真的取决于材料本身。如果是因为它属于二创或者因为我个人在专业性和写实性上的观点而让它令我不欣赏的话,这通常不是个问题,因为我仍然能够很快的识别出可以提供的修改意见。如果我对背景(兴趣群体、系列故事线等等)不了解或者对主题(暴力、精神问题、有争议的话题等)不喜欢的话审阅确实会变得更困难。
在我个人不喜欢但我能看出社区很接受的情况时,我只能诚实的表示作者应该寻求更多审阅来更好的了解读者的总体反应。如果可行的话,我仍然会试着去提供对一些常规的元素的反馈,比如说格式和基金会世界观。
我个人认为在以上所述的情况下提供建议并不很困难。一名审阅者不应该拘泥于直接的表述他们的阅读偏好,一个人的观点也不一定完全反映了整个更加广泛的站点社群。只是双方都应注意讨论上下文的问题。
过去你曾提到过TroyL的SCP-091:思乡症是你最喜欢的SCP篇目。现在还是这样吗?你能否阐述一下为什么你特别被这篇文章所吸引吗?
091还是我最喜欢的(尽管SCP-408很接近第二了)。我感觉这是基金会宇宙更宁静、更祥和的一面的典范;是少有的一点美好,提醒着读者和设定中的人们不是一切都晦暗而令人绝望。它也很直接的面向着更广泛的读者,这也是我一直想在我的作品中实现的。091也一直对我有很大的启发,因其算一篇从怪兽和疯狂之中脱颖而出的无害的异常的早期典范,它的高评分也正是因为此反差。
你也提到过DrEverettMann的“Mann的提案”是你最喜欢的001提案,Aelanna的“Mackenzie的提案”是很接近第一的第二名。现在还是这样吗?这些早期提案的哪点震撼了你?
当然,这些还是我最爱的。实话说大部分是因为他们相对较短并且直击痛点,对我来说这就让它们感觉更凄美。
作为蝴蝶小队和社区批评团队的队长,以及你自己作为作者的个人经验,你对普通读者投票和讨论的趋势有什么见解吗?你在高赞文章里发现了哪些特点?
其实没什么好的方法来整洁的列出所有观察到的趋势,因为他们每周都在改变,并且经常被譬如热门媒体和新闻、近期加入站点的来自特定的同人圈子的成员或者比赛等因素影响。所讨论的文章的类型也要考虑在内(将SCP与故事作比,一个被许多人审阅过,另一个只被一个人简要的读过,譬如此类)。
目前,随着讨论的进一步发展,我很难说有什么我特别注意到的坚实的一贯的规律,因为新页面会得到各种各样的评论,有些时候会发生的对话决定于作者如何回应这些帖子。(低分的文章倾向于在相似的方面仍需改正,也倾向于收到相似的评论。指导中心和许多社区讨论里的许多页面都详细的提到了这一点!我差不多能写整整一个关于投票和评论的倾向的系列……)
我认为我在高分文章中发现的最一贯的元素是它们都很独特且/或者很引人入胜。或者说,它们总有些东西能让你立即对它印象深刻,不论是一幅十分生动的图景,一个吸引眼球的短语,亦或是一个能让读者细细品味其中的深意的虚构的情形。
有很大一部分因倦怠和其他外部情况而不再活跃的工作人员。你如何在如此高频的个人活动下防止倦怠?除了站点活动,你平时还有什么喜欢参与的活动?你曾有想放弃的想法吗?忽略促成他们离开的情况,如果你能看到这些成员中的一个回归,你最想看到谁?
我通常用让自己放松的方式来避免倦怠。我给自己设定了一段在站点上工作的特定的时间,然后确保在我通常的每日工作人员任务之间保留休息时间。同时,我试着训练自己在感到脱力时暂时远离网站并且冷静下来。如果我觉得工作过度,和其他人聊天也很有帮助(就算只是把颠三倒四的全大写文本和表情一股脑的发过去)。
SCP维基之外,我喜欢照顾植物和两条斗鱼,或者在我想做的时候玩会游戏或者做些折纸。
我觉得我从未想过完全离开SCP维基——虽然我绝对想过休假一段时间。
对于最后一个问题……我不太确定。这几年来有很多工作人员都退休了,很难让我从其中挑选一个。
在2013年,你被问到“你希望在明年内在网站上看到哪些变化?接下来的5年又如何呢?” 你对1年的答案包括建立一种让人们提醒新文章作者“这篇文章得到过别人的反馈吗?”来在发布前让其走上正确的轨道的社区风气。 你对5年变化的答案提及了“一个更详细的寻找故事的系统”,因为你当时觉得故事并没有被好好的整理。 现在已经7年了,你觉得这些愿望已经实现了吗? 你希望在未来几年内看到其他变化吗?
两个愿望都已被实现,现在社区成员提醒冷贴的作者他们应该寻求对文章的批评与反馈已经是很常见的了;我觉得现在的标签系统和故事中心页的显示已经比原来用于分类故事的系统有了极大的进步。
关于对未来的展望,我最想见到的改变是越来越多的社区成员参与到审阅工作中,帮助他人提高审阅能力。
在《神奇宝贝》中,你认为阿勃梭鲁只是因为试图警告人们危险而得到了不公正的对待,还是认为“假死人”这个标签是应得的?
阿勃梭鲁绝对得到了不公正的对待,因为它只是带来了警告,而非真正的灾难。
最喜欢的俳句?
落花枝にかへると見れば胡蝶哉
rakka eda ni / kaeru to mireba / kochō kana
"Thought I, the fallen flowers
Are returning to their branch;
But lo! they were butterflies."
Arakida Moritake, translated by William George Aston
以下为前一篇采访下评论中挑选的来自社区的问题。
粗体为问题,引用文本为Zyn的回答。
社区问题
有什么你没说过的喜欢站点社区的原因吗?除此之外,和其他工作人员合作时你最喜欢的部分是?Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ~ DianaBerry
我喜欢站点成员所有的如此多的独特的爱好和故事——这些年来我曾与有两只墨西哥钝口螈的人聊过,与历史重演者聊过,与曾从重型机械下救下一只小猫的人聊过……当然我们有很多重叠的爱好,我也很喜欢能和这些人哪怕只是聊半小时关于D&D(龙与地下城)、万智牌、室内植物、热带鱼等等话题。
其他工作人员不会在我称呼我的斗鱼、我的猫/狗以及分享我的斗鱼的鬼脸时为难我。我为此很感谢他们。
作为一名站点的老成员,你一定见过站点的许多改变。自你加入站点至今,你见过最大的改变是什么?你觉得它带来的影响是正面的还是负面的?~ TheHouseOfBalloons
我得说我见过最大的改变是把重心从晦暗而令人绝望的内容转向以许多不同的文风来扩展基金会宇宙。个人来说我觉得这是正面的——我觉得我们都可以使用更多令我们感到坚定或至少充满希望的故事,即使它们是少数派。
什么激励了你创建蝴蝶小队?εїз? ~ Truc Linh
蝴蝶小队最开始是因为我要在IRC聊天室里做大量的社区批评联系工作,同时要联系许多人。有人建议我为这项工作取个昵称或者呼号,还有人将论坛上审稿者们的下降比作一群蝴蝶从天空降落。我们很喜欢这幅精神图景,于是我开了个沙盒页面来方便我在匹配作者与审阅者时跟踪各人的偏好。最终这个页面被增添了格式并且发布到了主站,来让作者在没有工作人员的跟进下自行寻找审阅者。
作为一名喜欢写良性异常和HE结局的故事的作者,你如何写作那些重度牵涉着挣扎、冲突、受难和其他任何这些令人不适的话题,但经常依赖于这些来推动剧情前进的文章(特别是SCP)? ~ TheMightyMcB
通常来说我会试着找一个能立即让我有一种美妙和/或轻度的愉悦的感觉的核心对象/叙述。另外,我也会以能让我感到特别感动的生活记忆为主题。然后我就试着一点一点的构建文章——我几乎不一次性从头到尾写完一篇草稿。我猜这能让我更好的保证文章中的不同元素良好的契合,这样就能避免出现我——作为作者——解释不了的剧情点或者叙述上的问题了。
对大部分文章我一般都能随心所欲的写下去直到我写出一篇粗略的草稿。这之后很重要的就是要来回的审阅以确保读者能喜欢它。我会尽量试着写一些差不多每个人都能有所感受的文章——其实就是尽量多用一些正面的情感和场景而非负面的。我对我的作品最大的愿望就是读者能铭记着他们阅读时所感受到的温暖,并且会想要重读一遍来再次感受这些温暖。
到这里采访就结束了。我希望你能喜欢它!我还想再次感谢Zyn接受了我的采访请求。再次感谢提供了部分问题的社区成员:DianaBerry,TheHouseOfBalloons, Truc Linh和 TheMightyMcB。我的下一位采访对象将会是DrMagnus。如果你有任何想问他的问题,请在本文的评论区留言,我会从中选择我最喜欢的。
As was the case for many other users on the site, Zyn was the first admin I came into contact with concerning some forum rules. Due to her tremendous impact on the community from her helpful feedback on the writing forums to the formation of her Butterfly Squad reviewers, Zyn stands as one of the most well-known, admired, and appreciated pillars of the SCP community. This status is clearly evident when observing her Ask Zyn thread from 2013 which continues to be active with over 1000 posts to date. Despite her busy schedule, Zyn graciously accepted my interview request. ~ WhiteGuard
Zyn was officially promoted to Administrator on the 3rd of March, 2017 and continues today as the Team Captain for the Forum Criticism Team. Zyn has been a member of this site since the 23rd of July, 2012, and her most popular page on the site by rating is SCP-348: A Gift from Dad at +1154. As previously mentioned, Zyn is also responsible for the Butterfly Squad, a group of skilled reviewers dedicated to aid authors in their conceptualizing and drafting processes. She is known to address many forum threads per day which further showcases her unmatched work ethic and her leadership as the captain of the reviewers. The following interview will continue the previous format consisting of 11 questions from myself and 4 questions from the community with her responses.
The bold text represents the questions whereas the text within the boxes are Zyn's responses.
Interview Questions:
Along a similar line of questioning from the previous interview, how exactly did you come across the SCP Foundation? What ended up drawing you to the wiki? What inspired you to become a writer on the site rather than remaining simply a reader and reviewer?
I originally stumbled upon the SCP wiki after seeing a link on the subreddit r/tipofmytongue. This was in 2012, I believe.
I read some of the articles and tales, and decided to try out the SCP article format for myself and see if I could contribute something lasting to the Foundation universe.
After interacting with the community (and coldposting my first article, which got some great feedback even though it was rather cliche and non-memorable) I was motivated to improve. I wanted to be able to contribute something that the audience would enjoy reading, the same way I enjoyed reading when I first joined.
You mentioned in your ask staff thread that you enjoyed your high school's creative writing class. Do you believe that your experience writing in this class contributed to some of your success on this site? What did you learn from it?
It's been awhile since that class, but yes, that experience definitely helped me develop skills pertinent to writing for the SCP wiki.
The lasting lessons I remember most are things like "if you're running low on inspiration or motivation, try finding a different environment to write in" and "if you're heavily basing a character on your own traits, make sure you can distance yourself from them so critique of the character doesn't feel like a personal attack". And of course, always be polite to reviewers. Practice looking at your own work from the perspective of an outside reader.
On your author's page, you say that your favorite articles usually involve Safe class anomalies with heartwarming and emotional narratives. As a reader, what specific aspects create a really enjoyable article for you? Reflecting on your years of reviewing, what is an example of a draft you looked at that you were really excited to see become a fully-fledged article?
I tend to have very little time for leisure reading these days, so at surface level I'm admittedly more likely to enjoy shorter, "punchier" articles. Beyond that, I like anomalies that are unique, whether because they're an unusual entity or item that we haven't seen before, or because they're so wacky and unpredictable it gives the reader pause. I love to have a good laugh even if the humor is in serious professional-sounding tone. And if there's an emotional or memorable aspect (as in, the article makes me feel strongly for someone/something in the narrative, or it makes me remember something of my own life), even better.
I'll be honest, the drafts that I tend to be the most excited about are the ones I'm co-authoring, after I've reviewed an author's material and liked it enough to want to be more involved in the writing process. So far as articles written by other authors goes, the one that sticks out the most in my memory is SCP-2295 (The Bear with a Heart of Patchwork).
As a reviewer, do you find it challenging to review ideas and drafts that do not fit your preferences? What is your procedure when you find an idea or draft with potential, but you know that you would not personally enjoy it? Is it difficult to provide advice in those situations?
It really depends on the material. If something isn't to my preference due to headcanon or personal views on professionalism/realism, usually it's not an issue since I can still identify suggested edits fairly quickly. Reviewing becomes more of a challenge if I'm not familiar with the background (Groups of Interest, series plotlines, etc.) or comfortable with the themes (violence, mental illness, controversial topics, etc.).
In cases where I don't personally enjoy something but I can see it doing well on the site, I just state honestly that I think the author should seek out more reviews to get a better feel for the overall audience reaction. I do still try to provide some feedback on general elements like formatting and Foundation portrayal if applicable.
I myself don't think it's difficult to provide feedback in the aforementioned situation. It shouldn't be too hard for a reviewer to acknowledge their personal reading preferences straightforwardly, and it's common sense that one's own opinions are not necessarily reflected by the entirety of the wider site community. Just a matter of both sides being aware of context.
In the past, you mentioned that TroyL's SCP-091: Nostalgia was your favorite SCP article. Is this still true and would you explain why you gravitate toward this article in particular?
091 is still my favorite (though SCP-408 is a very very close second). I feel like it's a good example of the quieter, more peaceful side of the Foundation Universe, the small bit of good that exists to remind readers and in-universe personnel that not everything is hopelessness and grimdark. It's also pretty straightforwardly relatable to a wide audience, which is something I always hope is possible with my own writing. 091 has been a huge inspiration to me as one of the earliest examples of a harmless anomaly that stands out amidst the monsters and madness, and is high-rated partially because of that contrast.
You have also mentioned that DrEverettMann's Mann's Proposal was your favorite 001 proposal with Aelanna's Mackenzie's Proposal being a close second. Is this still true and what is it about these early proposals that charm you?
I would say yes, those are still my favorites. Honestly mostly because they're relatively short and to the point, and for me that just makes them feel all the more poignant.
As the captain of the Butterflies and the Forum Criticism team as well as your personal experience as a writer, what voting trends and discussions have you observed from the general audience? Which aspects have you observed to be present in highly-rated articles?
There isn't really a good way to neatly list all the trends observed since they change week to week and often are affected by factors like popular media and news, recent site members joining the wiki from specific fandom groups, or contests. The type of page in question factors in as well (compare SCP article to tales, works reviewed by lots of people to works looked at briefly by one person, etc.).
So far as discussions go, I can't really say there are any solidly consistent patterns I've noticed in particular, since new pages get all kinds of comments and sometimes conversation depends on how the author responds to posts. (Granted, low-rated articles tend to exhibit the same recurring areas of needed improvement and tend to receive the same sort of comments. There are several pages in the Guide Hub and lots of forum discussions that address this in detail! I could probably write an entire series about voting and commenting trends…)
I think the most consistent elements I see in high-rated articles are that they are very unique and/or very relatable. Alternatively, there's something immediately memorable about them, whether a particularly vivid image, a catchy phrase, or fictional situation that makes a reader think deeply about the implications.
We have a large number of inactive staff who have dropped out due to burnout and other outside circumstances. How do you avoid burnout with the high level of activity you personally contribute? What type of activities do you like to participate in apart from the site? Have you ever felt like giving up? Ignoring the circumstances which contributed to their departure, if you could see one of these members return, who would you like to see?
I avoid burnout mostly by pacing myself. I give myself a certain amount of time to work on the site, and then make sure to take breaks in between my usual daily staff tasks. Also, I try to train myself to step away and cool down if I feel myself getting frustrated. It helps a lot to talk to others (even if it's just incoherent keyboard mashing allcaps and symbols over chat) if I'm feeling overworked.
Outside of the SCP wiki, I take care of plants and two betta fish and also do some gaming and origami when I feel like it.
I don't think I've ever considered giving up being on the SCP wiki entirely—though I've definitely thought about taking leaves of absence.
With regards to the last question… I'm not sure. There have been plenty of staff who have retired over the years, and it's difficult for me to pick one out of them all.
In 2013, you were asked "What changes would you like to see on the site within the next year? Next 5 years?" Your 1-year answer consisted of establishing a culture where people comment on new posts asking "Have you gotten feedback on this?" to nudge them in the right direction for critique before posting. Your reply for the 5-year change involved "a more detailed system for accessing tales" as you felt that tales were disorganized at the time. Now that it has been 7 years, do you believe these desires were realized? Are there any changes you would like to see within the next few years?
Both desires have been addressed, as it's now fairly common to see site members notifying coldposting authors that they should seek critique, and I feel like the current tag system and tale hub displays are a big improvement over the previous setup for sorting tales.
With regards to the future, the change I want to see the most is more site members engaging in the reviewing process and helping others improve their reviewing skills.
From Pokémon, do you believe Absol gets a bad rap when it is just trying to help warn people of the danger or do you believe the label "doom-bringer" is deserved?
Absol definitely gets a bad rap, since Absol is bringing the warning, not the actual disaster.
Haiku?
落花枝にかへると見れば胡蝶哉
rakka eda ni / kaeru to mireba / kochō kana
"Thought I, the fallen flowers
Are returning to their branch;
But lo! they were butterflies."
Arakida Moritake, translated by William George Aston
The following questions were picked out from the community feedback present on the previous interview's discussion page. The bold text represents the questions whereas the text within the boxes are Zyn's responses.
Community Asked Questions:
What is something you love about the wiki community that you haven’t talked about? Additionally, what is your favorite part about working with the other staff members? Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ~ DianaBerry
I love how there are so many unique hobbies and stories site members have—over the years I've chatted with someone who owns two axolotls, someone who does historical reenactments, someone who rescued a kitten from heavy machinery… there's a fair bit of overlapping interests and I really enjoy being able to just talk for half an hour straight about topics like Dungeons & Dragons, Magic: the Gathering lore, indoor plants, tropical fish, and on and on.
Staff don't give me a hard time when I call my betta fish my cats/dogs and share pictures of my fish making silly faces. I appreciate that a lot.
As a longtime member of the site, you’ve seen a lot of change on the wiki. What’s the biggest change you’ve seen from when you first joined to today, and do you think it was a positive or a negative? ~ TheHouseOfBalloons
I would say that the biggest change I've seen is the shift of focus from horror and grimdark to expanding the Foundation-verse with works of plenty of different genres. Personally I consider this a positive—I feel like we could all use more stories where we end feeling determined or at least hopeful, even if they're in the minority.
What inspired you to create the Butterfly Squad? εїз? ~ Truc Linh
Butterfly Squad initially started when I would do mass forum crit-calls in IRC chatrooms, pinging lots of people at the same time. Someone suggested having nicknames or callsigns, and someone else compared the descent of critters upon the forums to a swarm of butterflies descending from the skies. We liked the mental image a lot and I started a sandbox to keep track of preferences when I got questions about matching authors to reviewers. Eventually that was prettied up and posted to the mainsite so authors could look up reviewers themselves without needing staff to be the constant go-between.
As a writer who tends to prefer benign anomalies and happy(ish?) stories, how do you go about writing stuff that often doesn't heavily feature struggle, conflict, suffering, and all those other unpleasant topics that fiction (SCP in particular) often rely on to drive a plot forwards? ~ TheMightyMcB
Usually I try and find a core object/narrative that immediately inspires a sense of wonder and/or light amusement. Alternatively, I work with a memory from my own life that made me feel particularly emotional. Then I sort of build on that in pieces—I rarely ever write a draft straight from start to finish. I guess that makes it easier to ensure that the different elements of the piece fit together well enough so there aren't any plot holes or narrative questions I as the author can't answer?
For the most part I can usually go with my gut feeling until I have a rough draft, and beyond that it's a matter of getting lots and lots of reviews to be certain that people enjoyed the read. I try to focus on writing material that pretty much anyone in the audience can relate to; it's just a matter of using positive emotions and scenarios rather than negative themes. My foremost hope with my writing is that readers will remember the positive feelings they experienced when reading the piece, and will want to return and reread to experience those positive feelings again.
This concludes the interview. I hope you enjoyed it! I would once again like to thank Zyn for agreeing to do this with me. Thanks again to the community members who provided questions: DianaBerry, TheHouseOfBalloons, Truc Linh, and TheMightyMcB. My next interview will be with DrMagnus. If you have any questions for him you would like for me to ask, feel free to leave your question in the discussion portion of this page, I will choose my favorites from among them.